Policing In America Podcast

Policing In America Podcast

Welcome to Policing in America – a podcast about race and policing: the good, the bad and the ugly. The goal? To have, at times, uncomfortable conversations to spark positive change. Your host is currently the Officer in Charge of a unit that creates, delivers and maintains police training in the largest urban police department on the West Coast of America: Sergeant Tom Datro.

Recent Episodes

Inside the Kill Zone - The Psychology of Police Deadly Force.
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April 7, 2026

Inside the Kill Zone - The Psychology of Police Deadly Force.

David A. Klinger is a professor of Criminology and Criminal Justice at the University of Missouri-St. Louis, a researcher of deadly force, and the author of Into the Kill Zone: A Cop’s Eye View of Deadly Force , His publications are numerous and a simple Google search will reveal several incredible papers and articles penned by Prof Klinger. I hope you enjoy the episode as much as I enjoyed recording it!
When Justice Fails Survivors: Punishment, Healing, and the Truth We Avoid
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March 23, 2026

When Justice Fails Survivors: Punishment, Healing, and the Truth We Avoid

This episode I had the honor of speaking with the wonderful and amazing Marlee Liss. Marlee is single-handedly changing how justice looks and feels - depsite centuries of traditional punishment systems. Marlee's work has been featured in Forbes, Huff Post, Buzzfeed, the Mel Robbins Show and more. As an award-winning speaker, she's delivered talks for: National Sexual Assault Conference, Vanderbilt University, University of Toronto, Action Trauma Summit, Women's Mental Health Conference at Yale
When biology meets the badge.
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Feb. 19, 2026

When biology meets the badge.

In this episode, I sit down with Professor Steven James of Washington State University to explore one of the most overlooked variables in modern policing: sleep. We talk about what happens when human physiology collides with high-stakes decision-making — and how chronic fatigue quietly shapes reaction time, emotional regulation, judgment, and public safety outcomes. If we demand professionalism, restraint, and precision from officers, are we designing systems that support those expectations — or
The Future of Police is Already Here
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Nov. 30, 2025

The Future of Police is Already Here

In this episode we speak with James Bueermann. Chief Jim Bueermann (ret.) is the Founder and President of the Future Policing Institute, a think tank dedicated to advancing policing that is effective, empathetic and just. He has been involved in various aspects of policing since 1978. From 1978 to 2011 he was a member of the Redlands Police Department (CA). His last 13 years with the RPD he served as the Chief of Police and Director of Housing, Recreation and Senior Services. After his retireme
The RISE of Rashmi Airan
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Oct. 27, 2025

The RISE of Rashmi Airan

In this gripping episode, I sit down with Rashmi Airan , whose fall from grace exposed the quiet power of rationalization, cultural pressure, and the slow erosion of integrity. From the courtroom to a prison camp, Rashmi's story is a masterclass in how smart people can make devastating choices—and how redemption starts with radical honesty. For law enforcement professionals, this isn't just a cautionary tale—it's a mirror. We explore: The slippery slope of "just this once" How ethical drift snea
The Real Operative: Inside Child Trafficking with Paul Hutchinson
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April 30, 2025

The Real Operative: Inside Child Trafficking with Paul Hutchinson

By far the most emotional podcast I have done.  Paul Hutchinson is a modern day hero.  He has walked through the gates of hell to meet the Devil himself in order to save the most innocent among us.  Please enjoy this episode!   If...

About the Host

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Sgt. Tom Datro

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